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#1 Posted: 8/24/2009 21:25:50

I want to try my hand at skywriting.   Can anyone with experience point me in the right direction?  Or is this a closely guarded trade secret?



Marvin Homsley
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#2 Posted: 8/28/2009 08:51:19

David, no it is not a closely guarded secret.  There are just not many people that know much about this subject.  Many years ago I used to make and sell smoke systems which were mostly for aerobatic airplanes and some were for skywriting.  You need really, really, good smoke to skywrite.  I wrote a small book on the subject and may be able to find one of them back in a closet or something.  It is really more like a phamplet, not a big book.  It tells you what equipment you need, how to put it on your plane, what kind of plane and engines work best and best of all gives you the secret to making good letters in the sky.  All your mistakes are very visible.  I used to have a contract with a local budweiser distributor and could write "Bud Light" in my sleep.  I will look around and see what I have left at home.   Marvin Homsley     marvin@buckeye-access.com  



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#3 Posted: 8/28/2009 09:01:28

I wanna get some smokers on my car! weee! I'm interested in learning more about the skywriting! sent you an email!



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#4 Posted: 8/31/2009 10:35:32

Marvin, if you find two of the pamphlets you were mentioning I would be interested in one as well.  I've been toying with the idea for years but haven't done anything with it.  Considering a KCAB or Stearman.  Have access to the Stearman but not the KCAB (yet).  The owner of the Stearman (Cont. 220) has been considering smoke installation for a winter project.  Thanks for any help you can give.  John Chmiel  taildraggerflyer@yahoo.com



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#5 Posted: 8/31/2009 11:58:20

I believe Marvin was already contacted by the EAA magazine staff who saw his post and immediately smelled the blood of a potentially great feature!



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#6 Posted: 9/3/2009 22:55:36

This article was sent to me, although it's written for Flight Simulator, it gives a decent insight into the thought process of skywriting.   http://www.fsinsider.com/freeflight/Pages/ComputerPilotSkyWriting.aspx

There are some excellent resources in the right hand column.  The video from 1935 is a great piece of history.

http://www.archive.org/details/SkyBillb1935



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#7 Posted: 9/5/2009 02:57:40

Great video clip - I love the internet......

But Lady get those #&$&$# high heals off my wing and my car.!!!!!.. Did you see her jump up and down..?!!!



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#8 Posted: 11/27/2009 18:51:37
Michael Goetzman wrote:

 

I wanna get some smokers on my car! weee! I'm interested in learning more about the skywriting! sent you an email!

 

I had a smokesystem in my car, scared the crap out of mom once when she drove behind me

It was really fun to turn it on now and then just to show off, cause nothing else about that car was worth showing off..



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#9 Posted: 4/29/2010 08:29:07 Modified: 4/29/2010 08:30:49

Great 1930's sky writing film (via Lynda Meeks on Facebook)

 


 

 

 

 



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Lynol Amero
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#10 Posted: 12/12/2010 21:00:01 Modified: 12/13/2010 17:50:05

The Merry Christmas GPS track.  Here's another way to do sky writing. Click this link to see the results.

http://www.everytrail.com/view_trip.php?trip_id=905604&code=4ca0ac9c616f63c774d56e6e91bd7359

Here's how I did it.  I've been thinking about doing this for a long time.  If I could pull it off, it would be pretty cool.  I just couldn't think of anything to write that would be appealing to a broad range of folks.  Then, just a week or two ago, it occurred to me to use this phrase.  I didn't know how I would accomplish it at first, so I penned it out as frilly and loopy as I thought I thought could fly it.  It had to be big enough so I could make some pretty quick turns, but doable at lower speeds in the Ercoupe.  I had to figure out how big to make it.  So, I just started out creating a flight plan adding way points in the AvMap GPS, spelling out the letters.  I kept the spacing far enough apart that I thought it would work.  When the flight plan was done, it said it was about 70 miles long!  That should take about an hour, good enough to warm up an airplane that had been sitting for a little while in the cold.  I called a buddy and asked if he'd like to go flying.  I said I needed an extra pair of eyes to look for traffic, since we would be maneuvering quite a bit and hope he didn't mind a lot of turns Smiley  He was game and off we went.  As it turns out, I had unwittingly did some things right in the plan.  The base of the letters were actually along a road, which made it much easier to anticipate the turns.  In the future, I'd make sure I did it on purpose.  I think I also could have spelled Christmas backwards so I wouldn't have to always write left to right.  Dotting the 'i' was a nice steep turn, a fun maneuver before heading back to the airport.  This was the first attempt, and it worked the first time pretty nicely.  I thought it turned out pretty neat, so I thought I would share it with you all.


Sky_Writing.jpg

 



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Steve DiLullo
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#11 Posted: 12/13/2010 11:28:17

Absolutely awesome!!!

Great planning, incredible execution. Thanks for sharing.
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Lynol Amero wrote:

 

The Merry Christmas GPS track.  Here's another way to do sky writing. Click this link to see the results.

http://www.everytrail.com/view_trip.php?trip_id=905604&code=4ca0ac9c616f63c774d56e6e91bd7359

Here's how I did it.  I've been thinking about doing this for a long time.  If I could pull it off, it would be pretty cool.  I just couldn't think of anything to write that would be appealing to a broad range of folks.  Then, just a week or two ago, it occurred to me to use this phrase.  I didn't know how I would accomplish it at first, so I penned it out as frilly and loopy as I thought I thought could fly it.  It had to be big enough so I could make some pretty quick turns, but doable at lower speeds in the Ercoupe.  I had to figure out how big to make it.  So, I just started out creating a flight plan adding way points in the AvMap GPS, spelling out the letters.  I kept the spacing far enough apart that I thought it would work.  When the flight plan was done, it said it was about 70 miles long!  That should take about an hour, good enough to warm up an airplane that had been sitting for a little while in the cold.  I called a buddy and asked if he'd like to go flying.  I said I needed an extra pair of eyes to look for traffic, since we would be maneuvering quite a bit and hope he didn't mind a lot of turns Smiley  He was game and off we went.  As it turns out, I had unwittingly did some things right in the plan.  The base of the letters were actually along a road, which made it much easier to anticipate the turns.  In the future, I'd make sure I did it on purpose.  I think I also could have spelled Christmas backwards so I wouldn't have to always write left to right.  Dotting the 'i' was a nice steep turn, a fun maneuver before heading back to the airport.  This was the first attempt, and it worked the first time pretty nicely.  I thought it turned out pretty neat, so I thought I would share it with you all.

 

 



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#12 Posted: 12/15/2010 11:56:53

Great idea and execution, especially for a first try!

 

 

Lynol Amero wrote:

 

The Merry Christmas GPS track.  Here's another way to do sky writing. Click this link to see the results.

http://www.everytrail.com/view_trip.php?trip_id=905604&code=4ca0ac9c616f63c774d56e6e91bd7359

Here's how I did it.  I've been thinking about doing this for a long time.  If I could pull it off, it would be pretty cool.  I just couldn't think of anything to write that would be appealing to a broad range of folks.  Then, just a week or two ago, it occurred to me to use this phrase.  I didn't know how I would accomplish it at first, so I penned it out as frilly and loopy as I thought I thought could fly it.  It had to be big enough so I could make some pretty quick turns, but doable at lower speeds in the Ercoupe.  I had to figure out how big to make it.  So, I just started out creating a flight plan adding way points in the AvMap GPS, spelling out the letters.  I kept the spacing far enough apart that I thought it would work.  When the flight plan was done, it said it was about 70 miles long!  That should take about an hour, good enough to warm up an airplane that had been sitting for a little while in the cold.  I called a buddy and asked if he'd like to go flying.  I said I needed an extra pair of eyes to look for traffic, since we would be maneuvering quite a bit and hope he didn't mind a lot of turns Smiley  He was game and off we went.  As it turns out, I had unwittingly did some things right in the plan.  The base of the letters were actually along a road, which made it much easier to anticipate the turns.  In the future, I'd make sure I did it on purpose.  I think I also could have spelled Christmas backwards so I wouldn't have to always write left to right.  Dotting the 'i' was a nice steep turn, a fun maneuver before heading back to the airport.  This was the first attempt, and it worked the first time pretty nicely.  I thought it turned out pretty neat, so I thought I would share it with you all.


Sky_Writing.jpg

 

 



Lynol Amero
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#13 Posted: 12/18/2010 05:07:25 Modified: 12/18/2010 08:01:38

Created a new one today. I guess instead of calling this "skywriting", I'll call it "Sky-Sketching"
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http://www.everytrail.com/view_trip.php?trip_id=910614

Enjoy

 

 

 

 

 

 



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#14 Posted: 12/18/2010 05:09:24 Modified: 12/18/2010 05:11:27

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#15 Posted: 12/18/2010 06:54:09 Modified: 12/18/2010 06:56:19
Santa Lynol Amero wrote:

 

Created a new one today. I guess instead of calling this "skywriting", I'll call it "Sky-Sketching"
biggrin

 

santa 

^^ fixed link ^^

That is very cool!!

Gotta wonder if anybody's radar was tracking you!

What the heck is this guy doing?????

 

 



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#16 Posted: 1/1/2011 12:26:15 Modified: 1/1/2011 12:27:21

A beautiful day for a Happy New Year flight and a baby new year skysketch!

 

http://www.everytrail.com/view_trip.php?trip_id=920968

 

 
Baby2011.jpg



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#17 Posted: 1/1/2011 16:50:09

^ Been enjoying some steep turns, I take it?
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Love what you've been doing, Lynol - keep it up!



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Lynol Amero
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#18 Posted: 4/24/2011 01:24:32

Spring Flying is here!  Time for more Skysketching.  Here is the latest.  The track is here: http://www.everytrail.com/view_trip.php?trip_id=1055217

  


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#19 Posted: 4/24/2011 09:02:39

Lynol,

 

Thats brilliant! 
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Steve DiLullo
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#20 Posted: 4/26/2011 00:00:02

Just too freakin' awesome yet again, Lynol!



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