Posted: 9/14/2010 12:54:50
It seems the TSA has published new posters with an intended message of vigilance for the GA community, but really come off as threatening to aviation photographers.
Here is the poster in question:
There are a number of us EAAers who are aviation photographers - I'm curious to know what your opinion(s) are about what the TSA is trying to do, and what effects you've personally experienced when taking photos at the local airport (if any). The only time I was ever chastised was at the Doolittle Raider reunion at the NMUSAF back in April. Apparently it is verbotten to shoot photos of the museum from outside the fence that surrounds the museum. Lesson learned.
PS: Whatever you do, don't wear a hoodie on your next photo outing!
EAA Timeless Voices Program Coordinator & Museum Collections Assistant
"Let No Story Go Untold!"
Posted: 9/14/2010 15:24:36
I'm not so sure that guy isn't an IRS agent shooting tail numbers at Sonoma County Airport during the Bohemian Grove to make sure the companies aren't writing off vacations as a business expense. (They did that one year. )
On a more serious note, this goes to the core of a free society. Everything about aviation and peripheral to aviation is now considered a possible terrorist threat, including everyone in aviation. The whole idea of anonymous phone calls on the GA-Secure line is a symptom of the big brother government that is taking over. How soon EAA and AOPA forgot what happened to Bob Hoover when an anonymous tip was made to the FAA. Pilots are going to have to stand up to TSA and DHS and tell them to knock off this kind of paranoid crap so that EAA and AOPA can follow ... before GA is strangled.
Posted: 9/18/2010 15:37:26
It is my professional and experienced opinion that the the TSA is quite the pain in the a$$. Too bad our grandchildren will never know what GA is or was.........
Posted: 9/19/2010 20:20:45
The folks who run that terrorism hotbed airliners.net must be worried.
It's as bad as being on a train platform and being arrested for photographing a train for a photo contest run by Amtrak.
Of course now since I know Napalitano's organization doesn't know anything, I'm reluctant to report anything since it would certainly get someone that is completely innocent in trouble.
Your tax dollars at work.
Posted: 9/19/2010 22:35:06
Dean Billing wrote:
Pilots are going to have to stand up to TSA and DHS and tell them to knock off this kind of paranoid crap so that EAA and AOPA can follow ... before GA is strangled.
So how do we do that, and I mean that literally. What can each of us do as individuals tomorrow, and next month and next year to accomplish this? Neither party is interested in getting rid of these useless arms of the government (DHS being the primary one I'm speaking about now). How will it ever happen? DHS has a $56 Billion annual budget, growing substantially faster than inflation every year...and they didn't exist a few years ago. Considering our their usefulness, I fully believe that DHS is a branch of government that needs to be dissolved entirely. As in, lock the doors tomorrow. But how can the citizens actually accomplish something like this? The only way I can see that happening is if politicians have a real fear that they won't be re-elected if they don't shape up. The problem is, the politicians are able to keep 80% of the voters extremely polarized...as long as the politicians can maintain that polarization, they have no incentive to actually improve our government and country. Neither the left nor the right has our best interests in mind...they both just want to ensure their own re-election, and forget the cost to our country
Time for a third party? I'm not even sure that would do it...but I don't know what else can happen.
Posted: 9/20/2010 09:14:47
Really? I live in Dayton and visit the AF Museum all the time, but I haven't heard that one before. Perhaps you were shooting such that you were capturing some of Area B in your shots? If that's the case I guess I can understand since it's not kosher to take photos of an active base.
Zack Baughman wrote:
The only time I was ever chastised was at the Doolittle Raider reunion at the NMUSAF back in April. Apparently it is verbotten to shoot photos of the museum from outside the fence that surrounds the museum.
In response to the original topic, this is one thing that really rubs me the wrong way. As someone who loves both aviation and photography it's frustrating to see generalizations from the Tub Stacking Administration that paint us all as evil, dangerous folks. Stand up for your rights (last time I checked, it's not illegal to take photos from public land that's not marked 'no trespassing') at those airports where a fuss has been made over taking photos. And if you have a local place like I do where you can walk out on the grass next to the runway to shoot, do your part to preserve it!