Posted: 9/28/2010 13:39:03
This fall I plan on starting a Woodstock glider build. I would like to talk to anyone that is building one or has built one. The plans I have are for the 12m wing. I am looking for the 13m wing plan addition and the instructions that came with the original plans.
Tim Taylor EAA 517192
Posted: 10/1/2010 12:40:07
If you are not already a member, consider joining the Experimental Soaring Association (nee' Sailplane Homebuilder's Association), or at least visit the website: www.esoaring.com
The Maupin family sold me a set of 13m drawings several years ago, I in turn sold them along with the few parts I had to a fellow in the Midwest - might be able to track him down. They no longer sell the plans, I suppose you know.
If I'm not mistaken, Gerry Gross of Pennsylvania is the first to complete a 13m version, don't know if he's got it in the air yet. I can get you in touch with him but it's probably not appropriate for me to just give you his contact info. Why don't you send me a message with yours?
I think I still have a copy of the tips that Jim Maupin made on construction. Just a few pages but better than reinventing the wheel, I'll see if I can't dig them up for you...
Posted: 10/1/2010 13:33:27
Hi, thanks for the response. I found the ESA they are still active and I made contact with Gerry Gross he hasn't finished his glider yet but it sounds like he's about 80% done. Those pages would save me alot of time especially if basic fixturing is discussed, you could scan and E mail to firstname.lastname@example.org or any way you would like to send them. Regards Tim
Posted: 11/5/2010 12:07:29
Good luck on your build! I will keep my ears open for the 13m plans. Does anyone have a materials list for this design?
Posted: 11/5/2010 16:37:58
I did manager to get a copy of the 13m plans. I haven't reviewed all the plans I have in detail but I don't remember a separate bill of material.
Thanks for the interest Tim.
Posted: 12/27/2010 21:35:20
I bought a set of plans and am also looking for long wing drawings. Any help would be appreciated. Have you come across any info on building with a carbon rod spar?
Mark in MN
Posted: 1/6/2011 13:28:53
Mark, I did manage to get the 13m wing plans. I will make copies for my cost and send them to you. I have to find a new source in central New Jersey to make large copies. Please send your info addresses and numbers;I will get it done in the next month or so since we are going to be moving. email@example.com. The ESA is still active and they are mentioned in this thread. They and the VSA are the best source to find people with experience with this design. My project is only in the planing dreaming stage due to recent layoffs.
Tim Taylor EAA 517192
Posted: 2/4/2011 14:58:00
Hi, I'm new to this site, so I hope you don't mind my butting in.
Anyway, I have a set of plans for the Woodstock (12m wings). I plan to start construction as soon as it gets a bit warming in my garage. Would it be possible to get a set of the 13m wing plans? I'd be willing to pay for the cost of reproduction and shipping.
A related question: do you know if the 13m version has the same Vne and g-ratings? I imagine that if it does the spars would have to be thicker, and the wing attachments would need to be beefed up.
Posted: 2/5/2011 09:43:33
Hi, Tim here, The only changes in performance specs that I have for the 13m wing is an increase in GW and LD. When we get back to work we will be making copies of the plans including the 13m wings to use in building. I will E mail you with the costs when we get the copies made. Unfortunately I don't have a timetable beyond the spring.
Posted: 2/6/2011 14:24:22
Thanks for the info, Tim. I'll keep checking back here. In the mean time, I'm clearing out a space in the garage and hope to begin work on the horiz. and vert. stabilizers.
Posted: 2/6/2011 22:59:57
I'm also new to this site. I have 2 sets of 13 meter wings along with 12 meter plans #41 and have thought about building for a long time. There did not seem to be much interest in wooden gliders. I just recently found this site and the flame has been relighted.
The original material list was a kit replacement list. Several years ago I acquired, from Clint Brooks, a sketchbook for the woodstock. Clint Brooks drew the 13 Meter Wings that were approved by Jim Maupin. In his sketchbook there is a complete materials list with the exception of the carbon fabric. The sketch book is for the fuselage and tail feathers but does not address the 13 meter wing in detail. I think he was building with a partner that was constructing the wings. I have not had any contaact with Clint for over 10 years and don't know if they ever finished the Woodstock. The 13 meter wings are the only things that have reservations about, not so much structual but how to build them. If you find someone who has built and load tested them, please let me know. Hopefully interest is growing and we can pool knowledge and ideas. Let me know if you want me to send you either or both lists.
new kid on the block,
Posted: 2/7/2011 17:19:38
Hi, Tim here, The ESA has some members with experience building the 13m wings. There is some wooden glider activity on the Yahoo groups sites BG, Duster and others.
Posted: 2/9/2011 13:14:58
If you'd be willing to part with a set of the 13m plans I'd be willing to buy them from you. I'm really interested in building the Woodstock, and plan on doing so as soon as my schedule lightens a bit (likely this summer). I really like wooden airplanes, and internal combustion and I just don't get along, so the Woodstock is a great fit (and I really like flying older, "lower" performing gliders e.g. SGS 1-26, etc).
A completely unrelated question, to everyone out there: I've seen several on-line photos of the Woodstock where the color scheme is, well, no added color. That is, it looks like several builders varnished the fuselage, and left the flying surfaces unpainted. I'm wondering if anyone knows what one can use, in terms of covering material, to be able to go paint free. Stits and ceconite are both polyester materials and as such are susiptible to UV degradation. Did these builders use cotton and dope? If so, where does one find this material?
Posted: 2/10/2011 14:43:04
13 meter woodstock plans are quiet hard to find. Rather then sell them to you I will send them to you and you can have a copy made, then send them back to me along with a check for my postage and tube cost. That way we can keep them alive and well. I will also do this for anyone who is really serious about building this fine old lady.
Send your mailing address to:firstname.lastname@example.org. I will not give any of your information to anyone.
It would be great if more folks decide to build her, maybe this can help. What do you think?
Posted: 2/18/2011 15:03:45
Thanks for the help. I'll forward my mailing address as soon as I finish here. I love wooden airplanes, and given that I'm not a competition pilot a 25:1 L/D is fine for me. I built a MiniMax several years ago, and the Woodstock looks to be in the same spirit: easy to build, wood, and easy to fly.
Unrelated subject: many of the on-line photos of the Woodstock appear to be of an unpainted airplane. I love that semi-transparent look where one can see the structure. Any ideas on what these folks may have used for covering material? The modern polyester materials (Stits, ceconite, etc) won't work for this as they have to be painted (a lot) with a UV-blocking paint.
Posted: 5/5/2011 19:05:38
To all on this forum.
I am new to this posting thing. Who says you can't teach an old.. new stuff.
I would like to make a Woodstock glider. Anyone with plans they no longer need, please let me know.