Posted: 10/1/2010 16:42:45
Greetings fellow builders,
Got my plans for a Volksplane yesterday and I am doing some materials sourcing and came across something that begs a question. The plans call for 8 pounds of Aerolite adhesive. The searching I have done to find a replacement yields a list of possibles, with a lot of fervent opinion making it difficult to determine the right adhesive for the job.
All wood aircraft, spruce lumber, A-A marine doug fir ply, and aircraft mahogany ply. Glued and nailed.
Posted: 10/2/2010 18:03:41
Have you joined the yahoo group yet? Great bunch of really nice helpful people. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/volksplane/
I'm building a VP2, straightforward easy to build for a first timer.
Most builders are using T88 adhesive, easier to use than the Aerolite and it fills little gaps as well. . . . . .
Good luck and enjoy the process
Posted: 10/2/2010 23:24:22
Yes I have. I signed up with the VP yahoo group last week.
I didn't see any plans for the VP 2 on the Evans Aircraft site or on Aircraft Spruce. Are they still available?
T-88 was one of my first guesses.
Posted: 10/3/2010 12:04:04
VP2 plans are no longer available due I believe to liability worries on the part of the designer, they are however freely available for download at a # of websites. Most people that get them freely in this manner also buy a set of VP1 plans and call their VP2 something else. . . . so as to avoid any issues.
I happily have a set of original plans.
Posted: 10/3/2010 16:54:14
Thanks for the info. I was wondering why the plans were no longer available. I had a feeling it was a liability issue.
Posted: 10/4/2010 11:24:05
consider using Aerodux as an alternative to Epoxy, it is absolutely bombproof and there are less issues with developing allergies to it.
Posted: 10/4/2010 11:54:56
I'll add Aerodux to my list of possibles.
Posted: 10/4/2010 18:47:56
Moving away from your original question but I'm just wondering what size motor you are considering?
Posted: 10/4/2010 21:35:22
I was thinking I would see if I can get my hands on a 2100cc VW. I have done my fair share of wrench turning but I am far from being a gear head. Since the engine was going to come into play later on and I am reasonably sure it will be a VW I'm not worried about the mounting. I need to get some reference material on VW Av Mods.
Posted: 10/7/2010 18:28:47
T-88. use very light pressure so as not to starve the joint. lightly scuff sand any plywood before gluing to break the surface sheen developed during manufacture.
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Posted: 10/8/2010 09:01:12
I'm using T-88 on my next Pietenpol project.
Posted: 10/12/2010 08:31:52
I am restoring a Corben Baby Ace with all-wood wings. I tried several adhesives and settled on T-88 as the most versitile and easy to work with.
Posted: 10/12/2010 11:31:08
Modified: 10/12/2010 11:31:37
It seems as though a majority of you think T-88 is the best choice.
I have one more question on the subject...
Why is T-88 your adhesive of choice for use on wood aircraft structures?
Thanks again to everyone,
Posted: 10/12/2010 20:24:25
recommended by many wood aircraft manufacturers/kitters.
non critical mixing ratio, easy 1:1 but works as well at 2:1 either way.
excellent gap filling, low run, it is not wicking like many of the thinner ones.
lets go with heat gun and minimum scorching of wood
good join in under 24 hours.
price is reasonable (relative)
excellent vibration absorbtion
smell is tolerable
Posted: 10/26/2010 08:10:05
I agree. I used it when I built my Kingfisher. Also, I used System 3 when I built a large Stitch & Glue boat. Both, in my opinion, are excellent.
Posted: 10/26/2010 08:12:07
I was agreeing with the recommendation of the WEST System epoxy in my post above.
Posted: 10/26/2010 16:10:53
West systems is the only epoxy with an STC. It works great and has been used successfully building everything from Wacco's to sailboats
Posted: 10/27/2010 08:51:19
Modified: 10/27/2010 08:53:28
Don't worry too much about which adhesive. I went through a gallon of T-88 on my VP-2, but switched to West System after that as I was starting to build the fiberglass cowl and have been using it for wood as well. T-88 comes at the right viscosity for wood, but West is more versatile (use for wood or composites), can be thickened as needed and is locally available at boat supply places.