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The ultimate heritage flight

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Doug Pherson
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#1 Posted: 9/17/2009 18:57:42

The ultimate heritage flight would consist of Bomber of old and new

B-17, B-24, B-25, B-26, B-29, B-36, B-47, B-52, B-1, B-2

 

THAT would be a sight to behold, all those bombers over your heads.  What about the rest of you? what would be YOUR ultimate heritage flight that you would want to see.

 

Doug



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#2 Posted: 9/18/2009 08:26:30

That scenario would be a warbird lover's dream.  I'd personally be happy just to see FIFI back in the air! 

 

I think it would be cool, not to mention quirky and unique, to have a flight of all the -47 aircraft: B-47, C-47, CH-47, O-47, and P-47.  All have been extremely good aircraft that filled their roles brilliantly.  After all, 47 is a magic number!

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Matthew Gjedde
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#3 Posted: 9/25/2009 06:58:04 Modified: 9/25/2009 06:58:24

Is there a B-36 flying somewhere, or in the process of being restored? Or, for that matter, a B-47?

 



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Jim Baumann
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#4 Posted: 10/17/2009 10:58:28

My Ultimate Heritage Flight...The Century Series. 

F-100 - F-101 - F-102 - F104 - F-105 - F-106 - F-107 - and brought up by an F-110(F-4 Phantom II).  Now that would be quite a sight



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#5 Posted: 10/18/2009 00:26:13

I believe that the only B-36 in existence is the one at the Air Force Museum in Ohio.  The B-47's had a wing structural problem caused from flying the procedure for leaving the scene after dropping a (simulated) nuclear weapon.  I would guess that some are still around on static display, but I doubt that any are airworthy.  I saw them flying in 1962 when at Civil Air Patrol summer encampment at Chennault AFB, Lake Charles, LA.



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#6 Posted: 10/18/2009 21:23:16

Matthew,

I am not aware of any flying B-36's, but the U.S. Air Force Museum has two of them. One is on display. The other one is in pieces, awaitng restoration. You have to take the behind the scenes tour to see it. I would be very surprised to hear of them making it flyable.

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#7 Posted: 10/22/2009 17:38:48

I know of 4 B-36s on display in museums: the B-36J that Paul mentions at the USAF Museum at Wright-Patterson AFB in Dayton, OH, an H model at Castle AFB in Atwater, CA, a J model at the Strategic Air and Space Museum in NE, and another J model, recently restored, that was just rolled out in July at the Pima Air & Space Museum in Arizona.

The second B-36 at Wright-Patt (unless there's another I'm not aware of, which is sure possible) is actually the singularly rare XC-99 - in effect a double-decker cargo version of the B-36:


xc99.jpg

 

This will be a spectacular display once finished.

Sadly, I can't begin to imagine any of these every flying again ... we'll just have to keep rewatching Jimmy Stewart in Strategic Air Command ...



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Hal Bryan
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#8 Posted: 10/22/2009 17:57:13
Jim Baumann wrote:

 

My Ultimate Heritage Flight...The Century Series. 

F-100 - F-101 - F-102 - F104 - F-105 - F-106 - F-107 - and brought up by an F-110(F-4 Phantom II).  Now that would be quite a sight

 

Since we're playing "what if", don't forget the XF-108 Rapier! Sure, they only built a mockup, but maybe the guys working on the Bugatti could tackle that next! wink




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Andrew Ovans
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#9 Posted: 12/27/2009 17:24:17

With the DC-3 gathering coming up, is there anyway you guys at EAA can arrange a C-17 / C-47 Heritage Flight?



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#10 Posted: 1/7/2010 23:33:36

I am surprised that you left the B-58 out of the bomber list!  What a sight that would be.  And I believe that Walter Soplata in Ohio has a B-36 that used to be on display at WPAFB, but it is in pieces.    http://pacaeropress.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3243121   I would also like to see the Century series fighters, as I have worked on and got to fly and or fly in a couple.



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#11 Posted: 1/8/2010 13:16:53

Speaking of heritage flights ... this footage of a Spitfire and a Sopwith Camel in formation is breathtaking:




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#12 Posted: 7/19/2010 22:49:16
Jim Baumann wrote:

 

My Ultimate Heritage Flight...The Century Series. 

F-100 - F-101 - F-102 - F104 - F-105 - F-106 - F-107 - and brought up by an F-110(F-4 Phantom II).  Now that would be quite a sight

 

Here you go Jim, found it on YouTube.  God I love the internet, otherwise I'd never get to see stuff like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmseXJ7DV4c


Bret



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#13 Posted: 7/21/2010 11:50:34

In terms of Heritage Flights that COULD happen but don't, I would like to see a simple P-51, F-86, QF-4, F-15C & F-22. Unfortunately that probably won't happen any time soon though as the USAF doesn't do 5-ships and I think the F-15C East team is no longer around.  Closest I've come is a P-51, QF-4, F-15C & F-22 @ Tyndall last year.



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#14 Posted: 7/21/2010 13:04:29

Hi Hal.

 There used to be a B-36 at Greater SW Regional Airport (now closed) between Meachum and DAL in the Ft Worth area. They were built a short drive away at Carswell AFB, in the west 'burbs of Ft Worth. There was a scramble to repo this air craft somewhere, anywhere before the runways were dug up. I have no idea what happened to it. There was even a wild idea for a while of flying it out. I suspect that it was parted out. At least disassembled. The new land lords just wanted it gone. I never saw it, only the runways and them only at night.

I used to visit the C-99 parked outside the gate at Kelley AFB. A veterans group had someone on hand to accept donations for an unguided tour. Let me say this. There is not enough money in the world to return this airframe to service. The last time that I saw it was in the mid 70's.

Bob



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#15 Posted: 7/21/2010 21:25:02

There's zero chance that a B-36 will ever fly again, and about 0.000000000000000000000001 % chance that a B-47 or B-58 would. It would have to be privately owned to even have a shot at it.

The B-36 that was in Ft. Worth is the same one that's now in Pima. It was restored over tens of thousands of volunteer man-hours and a ton of money raised by a small group of retired Convair workers. Then a few years ago, just as it got completed, the infamous Gen. Metcalf at the USAF Museum decreed that it was to be tranferred to his buddies at the Pima museum. They didn't even say thank you to the guys in Ft. Worth, without whom this airframe would almost certainly no longer exist. There's a good reason why a lot of important museums refuse to have anything to do with the USAF museum, this is just one of many examples of how they operate.

There's a B-47 at the 8th AF museum in Savannah, GA, as well as at the USAF Armaments museum near Ft. Walton Beach FL.

 



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#16 Posted: 7/22/2010 04:54:30
Andy Ovans wrote:

 

With the DC-3 gathering coming up, is there anyway you guys at EAA can arrange a C-17 / C-47 Heritage Flight?

 

I thought I read on here or on the Airventure website awhile back that there would be one this year.

 



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Owen O'Rourke
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#17 Posted: 7/22/2010 11:37:19

Actually, I would argue that the B-36 has a higher chance of flying - I believe I read somewhere that Walter Soplata has most of one on his farm - that being the only privately held airframe. B-47 and B-58 are all government (USAF) owned in museums as far as I know which means 0% chance of them flying again.