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Posted By:
Hal Bryan
#1 Posted: 12/1/2009 17:30:34

This message came in to our museum's inbox last night - passing it along by request:

Here is the list of old planes I have. I would like to find someone with deep pockets and who loves old planes who will help fund both the recoveries and restoration.  Please spread the word.
1. 2 WW2 Corsairs off San Diego in the ocean. Shallow
2. Brewster Buffalo in a certain lake in USA
3. Amphibious British WW2 plane in a certain English lake. A Sunderland.  Kermit Weeks has one at his air museum in Fl.
4. PBY in Lake Mead
5. P-38 off San Diego in 130 ft. of water
6. 5 SBD's in South Pacific in brachish water. Eye witness told me about them going down.
7. Japanese Zero in Solomons on land and in Indonesia in jungle
8. 2 P-38's in indonesia near shore and can be seen from air.
9. P-66 in San Francisco Bay
10. F5 in a Montana lake
11. F5 on my island of Navassa west indies.
12. A Beaver in a certain British Colombia, Canada lake
13. Possible Brewster Buffalo in a California lake
14. B-29 bomber in Lake Mead I found years ago with side scan sonar. (problems with Nat. Park Svc)
15. "Black Sheep Squadron" pilot from WW2 recently gave me locations of SBD's, Corsairs and Zeros.
16. WW1 British  Sopwith Struders in a river in Scotland sitting on the worlds first aircraft carrier which launched planes at sea.
I am told that the SD aero space museum bought a P-39 or 40 from a fisherman out of san diego. It was in 1000 ft. of water. Now, it is totally restored.  I write books about this kind of stuff but I have never recovered an airplane. It has always been ancient shipwrecks and their possible treasures.
I am negotiating with several TV production companies who produce for The History Channel and Discovery
Channel networks about creating a series about me and my team searching for and recovering old aircraft. I will host the show.
My phone is 760 468 1240
Bill Warren
San Diego, California USA

Online Community Manager - EAA
Chip Haehnel
#2 Posted: 12/11/2009 12:44:14

Don't have deep pockets, but would love to help.chip

Charles Widowski
#3 Posted: 1/7/2010 23:50:01

There are five more P-38s still in the Greenland ice cap.

Tony Pileggi
Homebuilder or CraftsmanAirVenture Volunteer
#4 Posted: 2/21/2010 10:18:46

Make sure you contact the US Navy before you recover any US Navy aircraft. A law exists which states that any Navy aircraft recovered by anybody, anywhere, still belongs to the US Navy.

They will allow you to recover it and maybe even restore it, before they thank you for doing it and tell you where they want you to deliver it.



All composite 82% F4U-1A Corsair replica www.Corsair82.com
Adam Smith
Young Eagles Pilot or VolunteerHomebuilder or Craftsman
#5 Posted: 2/21/2010 11:31:17

#3 is likely to be the story of a Shorts Sunderland in Lake Windermere that was going around.  It was exposed as a fake.  Someone had got very creative with an Airfix model and Photoshop, to create some "sonar" pictures.

That being said the folks who pulled the Wellington out of Loch Ness in the 80s did find another (smaller) aircraft down there which I don't believe anyone ever followed up on.

In general I'm sure there are some good finds still to come out of fresh water.

#16 seems a bit garbled but I think it's referring to Sopwith Strutters in the Firth of Forth.  I would forget about this one.  The River Forth at that point is salt water.   For years people have been looking for a treasure ship belonging to King Charles I in the Firth of Forth.   They know it's there somewhere, and the treasure on board is very, very valuable.  But the diving conditions are treacherous.

Adam Smith
Young Eagles Pilot or VolunteerHomebuilder or Craftsman
#6 Posted: 2/21/2010 11:33:19

Whatever happened to the Brewster Buffalo that was pulled out of a lake?

BW-372 in the lake