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Resurrecting the Bugatti Racer

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Brady Lane
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#1 Posted: 10/21/2009 15:46:38 Modified: 2/16/2010 13:45:57

***UPDATE - 2/16/10 ***
Scroll down to post #20 for an update on the project and recent photos from Scotty and Gregg.

 

EAA members Scotty Wilson and Gregg Carlson spent a day in Oshkosh this week measuring the airfoil of the Bugatti Model 100 Racer—a design that is 70 years old and has never flown.  They are building one and plan to fly it! 

There apparently is a debate over the airfoil of the Bugatti, so to resolve the issue once and for all, Gregg engineered a profiler to digitally measure and record the exact airfoil used on the original.  Here's the video...


 

 

 



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#2 Posted: 10/21/2009 16:59:28

Super Cool!

 

I can't wait for Hal to buy me one!

 

 



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#3 Posted: 10/21/2009 17:15:51

How about one of these?

http://www.lionheartcreations.com/Bugatti.html

 

 

 



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#4 Posted: 10/21/2009 21:35:19

Great video Brady.  Interesting perspective on the military potential of the design.

This project is awesomely awesome!  Very exciting that someone is finally and seriously building a Bugatti replica. The very best of luck to Scotty and Gregg in their epic journey, can't wait to see it fly.



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#5 Posted: 10/22/2009 09:28:09

 

Gregg just sent us their preliminary foil measurements.  Pretty impressive...

 

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#6 Posted: 10/22/2009 15:25:05

Brady - nice work producing the video.  I think I speak for many others when I say that I am very interested in seeing more of this project, especially if they get it flying. 



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#7 Posted: 10/22/2009 16:28:10
Brady Lane
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#8 Posted: 10/22/2009 16:58:29

The more I learn about this plane, the more I like it.  And it looks like I'm not the only one.

There's a flight simulator for it, a flying RC model and a 1/43 scale model kit available.  (I'm guessing it doesn't have the correct airfoil though).



 



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#9 Posted: 10/22/2009 16:58:37

Fascinating.  I can't wait to see this fly.  Will it fly?



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#10 Posted: 10/22/2009 17:23:01

Piece of related trivia  - - Salman Rushdie wrote a book Shalimar the Clown in which the Bugatti airplane makes a prominent appearance.  In his research he visited the EAA Museum to look at it.  



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#11 Posted: 10/23/2009 02:16:21

What a great project. 

With the hindsight that was earned designing, building and flight-testing three different tail-propeller airplanes (with the invaluable support and advice of the late Molt Taylor) I am hopeful that the builders of this project will do a really thorough test program on the buried engines, drive shafts and propellers well in advance of actually putting those systems in their airplane.

 

 



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#12 Posted: 10/23/2009 06:58:28

Let's see how it stacks up against this:

 

Percival Mew Gull 

 

Perhaps Hal
 will buy me one when he gets all the money in the world!
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#13 Posted: 10/23/2009 09:09:17

Will it fly?  

You ask a reasonable question.  It may have enough tail volume - but it looks marginal.  I suggest a visit to a low speed wind tunnel.



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#14 Posted: 10/23/2009 10:31:34
Ray Hindle wrote:

 

Let's see how it stacks up against this:

 

Percival Mew Gull 

 

Perhaps Hal
 will buy me one when he gets all the money in the world!
biggrin

 

 

I've just added "Buy Ray Hindle a Percival Mew Gull" to my "After I have all the money in the world" list, Ray. Just don't ask me how far down the list ... wink



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#15 Posted: 10/24/2009 21:33:52 Modified: 10/25/2009 09:52:49

Hello,

When will they have those Bugatti plans finished?  I'd like to add a set next to Mew Gull plans in "Clarke's airplane plans museum" as my wife calls it.

 



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#16 Posted: 10/25/2009 09:35:45
Hal Bryan wrote:

 

Ray Hindle wrote:

 

Let's see how it stacks up against this:

 

Percival Mew Gull 

 

Perhaps Hal
 will buy me one when he gets all the money in the world!
biggrin

 

 

I've just added "Buy Ray Hindle a Percival Mew Gull" to my "After I have all the money in the world" list, Ray. Just don't ask me how far down the list ... wink

Thanks Hal!
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#17 Posted: 10/27/2009 08:15:52
Jeff Long wrote:

 

Will it fly?  

You ask a reasonable question.  It may have enough tail volume - but it looks marginal.  I suggest a visit to a low speed wind tunnel.

 

Supaéro in Toulouse, last year:

--Luc


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#18 Posted: 11/4/2009 09:33:52

 

I will be interested in seeing what engines and how the drives along the pilot actually work. The idea of those drives running either side of my seat make me a little nervous as a pilot.

How exact a replica is to be produced, has there been any word?  It will be great to see this project progress regardless.

Clarke Tate



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#19 Posted: 11/12/2009 20:58:12

My chromosomes tell me OOOOOUHHH  LLLAAAHHH LLLAAAHHHHH  ! ! ! 

and my brain says mmmmnnn  maybe discuss this a little with Delmar B just for grins.....and Burt R in confidence,for support

One thing absolutely for sure ...that when and if it flies...there will be those souls gone forth that will pause and winsomely look back to admire and applaud the endeavor and cheer it's success...be safe for us ... we want it to endure.




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#20 Posted: 2/16/2010 13:23:26
Received an email this morning from Scotty Wilson with an update on their Bugatti project:


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Good Morning from the frozen Southern Great Plains!
 
I just wanted to give you an update since our last visit. A lot has happened…
 
First, construction is going very well and we are still on schedule to fly the plane in May 2011. I am spending the winter building the horizontal stabilizer; rudder-vators; and working on cockpit details. Photos below.
 
Second, we went to Brussels in January to meet with other enthusiasts, to include the grand-nephew of Louis de Monge. As you may recall, de Monge designed the Bugatti 100P. While the airplane was Bugatti’s vision and carries his name, it was de Monge who was responsible for the plane’s extraordinary presence. Luckily, his family has several boxes of personal letters and period magazine articles that give us insight into de Monge’s life.
 
We also went to Riccione, Italy, to visit with GT Propellers ( http://www.gt-propellers.com/home.htm ). They share our passion for the airplane and offered to build two replica propellers for our Bugatti! These people are real pros and very sophisticated, making replica composite-blade props for Warbirds (Spitfires, etc.); Experimental-category airplanes like the Lancair; and Light Sport Aircraft. They also introduced us to an Italian company that makes components for motorcycles and is in the process of developing a 100 HP-class engine for Light Sport and Experimental aircraft.
 
Third, it appears that we have been successful – through Frederic Gasson – to establish an official relationship with the Schlumpf Museum in Mulhouse, France. The Schlumpf (The National Automobile Museum http://www.collection-schlumpf.com/en/schlumpf/ ) houses scores of Bugatti 100P drawings. While not final, we’ll get access to all drawings in return for displaying their logo in our communications. As an aside, Frederic has visited the EAA Museum and fondly remembers the tie he spent with Bauken.
 
Gregg and I will be back to Oshkosh whenever the weather warms a bit for some more work with the original airplane.

Best to you all!
 
Scotty

 
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Last fall Scotty Wilson and Gregg Carlson came to measure the airfoil of the wing for their replica project and are now interested in coming back to further their research - specifically to measure and photograph the landing gear, analyze the original paint so they can match it precisely and hopefully look into the inboard section of the right wing.  In all their research they haven't found any photos of the right-side wing bay and are interested in it so they can examine a sprocket assembly attached to the aileron control system.   Woody said the sprocket assembly is probably NOT part of an aileron trim system but more likely is part of a system to reflex the ailerons upward to reduce drag during high-speed flight.  Sounds intriguing.  

We'll keep you posted as we hear more but until then, look in your attic and ask your neighbor to look in their attics for any old Bugatti Racer photos.  You never know where some old photos may be tucked away.

Here are the photos they also sent along.  The replica control stick is a work of art!

 

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Stabilizer spars in their jig; fuselage in background.

 


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Gregg Carlson and Scotty Wilson with replica control stick.

 


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Replica control stick machined by EAA member Chris Clemons (Capstone Machine, El Dorado, KS.)

 


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Bugatti Exhibition in Brussels, Belgium. Ladislas de Monge – grand-nephew of the airplane’s designer – is on the right in the blue sweater. Frederic Gasson is in the center of the photo.

 


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Alex Tonini (GT Propellers); Gregg Carlson with Spitfire prop blade.

 


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Left wing bay.  We think the sprocket assembly is NOT part of a trim system but is rather to reflex the ailerons upward as a drag-reduction measure. So far, I have not found any photos of the right-side wing bay.



 



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