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Kerry Sim
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#1 Posted: 1/12/2010 01:55:44



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We are a small group of enthusiasts in Western WA interested in connecting with folks who have classic air race aircraft or replicas (i.e. 20's 30's and 40's). We know of three aircraft, two Gee Bees and a Hall Racer, in this area. There may be more, but as of this writing they are not known to us.

We are interested in gathering a number of racers in order to put on an exhibition of the Classics, either at Reno, Oshkosh, or anywhere for that matter.

Since all we have at the moment is a desire (and single page website www.classicairracers.org) we are not yet ready to announce anything specific related to time or place that this exhibition will take place.

We are simply gathering information on where these classic racers might be, who may be operating them, and if they have an interest in participating in the project.

So, if you are an owner of, or know of this type of aircraft, I would greatly appreciate if you could contact me, Kerry Sim, via the www.classicairracers.org website. Or if there is a way via this forum, feel free to contact me that way. (And if there is a way, I haven't  been able to figure it out yet... so maybe you could teach me.)

Thanks in advance for any assistance you may provide.

Kerry



Don MacNeil
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#2 Posted: 1/14/2010 18:57:54

Hi Kerry:

We operate Johnny Livingston's Taperwing WACO s/n A-65. See our web site: WWW.vintagewings.ca

There is a page dedicated to this aircraft and a link to the "full history" of the aircraft which I have written.

Don MacNeil

Historical Research

Vintage Wings of Canada

 



Kerry Sim
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#3 Posted: 1/14/2010 19:17:29

Thanks for the info Don, I appreciate it. I will add this airplane, and Vintage Wings Canada to the list we are building.

Cheers, Kerry

p.s. I saw Hawk One, and met Michael Potter and a couple of other folks (whose names escape me at the moment) at Comox BC last year when the Centennial Dinner took place. At the time we had not started this Classic Air Racers project or I would have discussed it with them then.



Mike Nortier
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#4 Posted: 1/17/2010 18:58:08

Hi Kerry,

 

I share your passion for classic race aircraft, but was not aware of the existance of a replica Hall Bulldog. Could you put me in touch with the builder?

There is also a replica of the QED under construction. Again i have no further information on this project. Would love to see these.

My email: kantanta@msn.com

 

Regards,

 

Mike Nortier.



Steven Dienst
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#5 Posted: 1/18/2010 17:33:13

Art Chester's 1934-36 race winning "JEEP" replica has been completed by Lon, Steve and Eric Dienst and is now flying out of Poplar Grove, IL (C77).  The aircraft first flew in September 2009 after eleven years of research (photos and plan-view drawings provided by the Smithsonian and measurements taken from the original remains owned by the EAA) and construction.  To date, Lon has flown approximately 10 hours in the aircraft without problem.  The Aircraft was displayed at AirVenture 2009; however, the EAA could not judge it because it had not yet flown.  Hopefully, we will have it again at AirVenture 2010.

Steven Dienst

E-mail:  sld_2129@msn.com

 



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Andrew King
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#6 Posted: 1/18/2010 21:42:01

Steve, that's coooool!



Lon Dienst
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#7 Posted: 1/19/2010 17:53:32

Kerry,  My brother Steve submited the pictures of the Jeep that we built and have been flying. He also put me on to your desire to have a get togther of  vintage and classic Air racers that sounds like a great idea. I was very surprised at the attention the Jeep got at the last Airventure and was thinking that this was something that should be done on larger scale. ( Larger scale for air racers and replicas not larger scale for Airventure) We have been working with Jack Cox of Sportsman Pilot Magazine over the last few months and he is doing articles on both Art Chester and the original JEEP and  the replica that we built in the Feb. issue of Sportsman Pilot.  Keep me posted on your plans and let me know if I can help.   Thanks for the interest.  Lon Dienst



Kerry Sim
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#8 Posted: 1/19/2010 18:39:08

Lon, thanks for the info, and thanks to Steve. Great looking airplane that Jeep! Will definitely keep you posted. I'm sending you a personal message as well to exchange information.

Cheers, Kerry



Eric Dienst
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#9 Posted: 1/25/2010 15:28:14

I have also started a Replica of the Folkerts SK3 of Rudy Klings  with help from a Kling family member.  Not much to look at right now but we do have a fuse tack welded and almost  have the landing gear done.

 

Eric Dienst



Andrew King
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#10 Posted: 1/25/2010 16:51:14 Modified: 1/25/2010 16:59:20

Eric, I stopped in Lemont once about 15 years ago while driving past Chicago, and looked in a phone book,  where there was still a number of Klings listed.  I also found the little cemetary outside of town, and Rudy's gravestone, which has a picture of the SK-3 engraved on it.

 

Jim Harvey in St. Louis, who used to run the Monocoupe Club, has a number of photos of the SKs that I think he got from Clayton Folkerts, including some taken during construction if I remember right.  He made me a set of copies, but I've long since lost track of where I put them.   You might try to contact him through the current Monocoupe Club at monocoupe.com .

 

I used to know an old timer who flew a J-2 Cub to the Miami air races in '37, and said he was standing near Mrs. Kling when Rudy and Frank Haines crashed, said that he had a piece of the wreckage of the SK-3 for many years, but he never could find it while I knew him, and died a number of years ago.

 

Can't wait to see your replica.

 

 

 



Eric Dienst
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#11 Posted: 1/26/2010 13:59:20

 Andrew

 

I will try to track down Jim Harvey and see what I can get. Have had a lot of help from the Klings and Folkerts familys.

I have folkerts family members looking for the spinner that servived the crash and was in Rudys shop dill it was torm down some 15 years ago.

I will try to put up some pics soon.

 

 



Kerry Sim
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#12 Posted: 1/26/2010 14:23:12

Steve, Lon, Eric, Dienst, Andrew KIng, and anyone else who has pics: Would y'all mind if I posted some of your pics on the classicairracers.com website?

If you click on my picture and send me a note with your email, I will respond with mine, and we can discuss pictures and other details and not clutter up this forum with our communications.

In return, I will happily keep the forum informed of changes and progress on the website, and the overall status of the Classic Air Racers project.

 

Cheers

Kerry

 




Kerry Sim
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#13 Posted: 4/22/2010 18:43:16

 

To everyone who originally posted here wanting to participate in Classic Air Race discussions, events, and history, please check out this website and the recently added a Hall Racer page.

http://www.classicairracers.org/Classic_Air_Racers/Hall_Racer_Project.html

Also would any of y'all who wish to, please contact me through the link on the above site, or  kdsim at comcast dot net. I'd like to build up a contact list and add more pages and pictures ( of your project?) to the website.

Thanks

Kerry Sim



Clay Moody
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#14 Posted: 5/6/2010 23:55:56

Hello to all!

Eric:

I'm very interested to hear that you are building an Sk-3 replica, I am as well, but not to flying status.  Started about a year or so ago, not looking for perfect authenticity, using an existing A/C frame and adding to it, first thing I built were the wings, so now have wings and most of welded fuselage.  Mine is just a 1:1 static model, but I'd be very interested in any pictures of yours or the original aircraft, always been one of my favorites.  Yours is indeed going to fly?  If so what about vertical stab area and aspect ratios, are these all going to be left as per original? Thanks


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