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Seth Jackson
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#1 Posted: 5/26/2010 15:02:47

Hi guys. I am 17 years old and I am getting started in ultralight flying while I am working on getting my private. I ran across this airplane and realized that the plans are really cheap. I am thinking about building this airplane. Has anyone else seen this airplane before? I will post the link below. If you have any more information on this plane, please post it!

http://affordaplane.com/---------the link



Rod Anderson
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#2 Posted: 5/27/2010 21:13:17

 Try these two links Seth. I bought the plans about a year ago but have not had the time to do anything with them yet. I hope this helps--Rod Anderson                                                                              http://www.thinkersnest.com/Wades_Affordaplane.htm, http://myultralightpics.tripod.com/id20.htm



Michael Glasgow
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#3 Posted: 5/27/2010 21:43:17

Today was the first I had seen it, it looked like it might be fun.  I ordered a set of plans.  I could probably modify it and make a rigid wing ultralight glider out of it also.  I glanced thru the plans, and it looks like the wings may only be covered on the top.  On a powered aircraft, this would help keep the airspeed slower, and probably slightly lower the stall speed.  If I were going to make a glider out of it, I think I would want to do double surface on the wings.  Glide ratio would be considerably better with a flat lower surface.  Might even be able to do it on a weight shift deal, no tail feathers, no ailerons.  I would want to look at the plans a lot closer before I did that.  A friend did a foot launch biplane probably 25 or 30 years ago, with no tail feathers.  He did wing warping for control on it.  We'll see what I come up with.  It looks like it has the potential to be fun.  If I did powered, I'd probably go ahead and put an N Number on it, rather than do it as ultralight.



Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
Jim Smiley
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#4 Posted: 5/27/2010 22:55:28

Hey Seth...try cheapaircraft@yahoogroups.com  it is a builders group for the affordaplane....



Seth Jackson
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#5 Posted: 5/28/2010 08:42:22
Thanks for the link! I did find that out when I was researching the plane. Thanks for the help!
Jim Smiley wrote:

 

Hey Seth...try cheapaircraft@yahoogroups.com  it is a builders group for the affordaplane....

 

 



Seth Jackson
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#6 Posted: 5/28/2010 08:44:18
Yup. I also found those a while back. Alot of great pictures of the build. It looks pretty straight forward. I am just wondering but are the foam ribs strong enough or maybe replace the ribs?
Rod Anderson wrote:

 

 Try these two links Seth. I bought the plans about a year ago but have not had the time to do anything with them yet. I hope this helps--Rod Anderson                                                                              http://www.thinkersnest.com/Wades_Affordaplane.htm, http://myultralightpics.tripod.com/id20.htm

 

 



Michael Glasgow
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#7 Posted: 6/1/2010 18:51:02

I too wondered about the foam ribs.  My concern was about the ribs separating.  I imagine the 1" foam could handle the compression on the leading edge, and under surface of the wing.  I was concerned about the foam developing a stress fracture from a scratch or nick on the sides.  I did a post on the cheapaircraft chat group asking if anyone else was concerned about the foam, but no one has responded to that one  There is a cheapaircraft2 and cheapaircraft covering group also.  all part of the same group.  The 2 group is more for photos, and the covering group is aimed at covering questions.

 

I did a rough estimate on tubing costs, and it would run about $1250 for tubing, if bought from Spruce (not including shipping).  I checked a local metal place here in Salt Lake City, and their website had prices.  The 2" square tubing was about $250 locally, and $200 from Spruce.  I didn't compare any other sizes.  Shipping costs wouldn't be high enough from Spruce for me to buy locally.  I think it will depend on where you are, as to where the best pricing on metal will be.



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Dan Leech
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#8 Posted: 6/10/2010 22:45:52

My Affordaplane is just recently finished. I own the CHEAPAIRCRAFT Yahoo groups. I expect to make the first flight in the next couple weeks, after I get a bit of refresher training.

Dan Leech

Alliance, Ohio


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Dan Leech
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#9 Posted: 6/10/2010 22:55:26

Sorry, In the photo I posted, I didn't have the center section gap seal in place, or any of the fuselage rigging wires, and th wingtips were off. If anyone is interested, I will post an updated photo.

Dan



Rod Witham
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#10 Posted: 6/11/2010 03:29:32

Hi Dan,

I'd like to see an updated picture of it.

Rod



Terry Wirgau
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#11 Posted: 6/12/2010 21:57:12

Hey guys, The strength of the wing is in the aluminum framework. The foam ribs are to give the fabric its airfoil shape. The Affordaplane is proving itself over and over. The plans are worth the money even if you just want to study them.............................Terry  Wirgau,  Rogers City,Mi.



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#12 Posted: 6/28/2010 14:25:43

 

Hello Dan,

Beautiful A-Plane. What engine/drive and prop are you using? I'm just getting started and am trying to get my cost's together.

Thanks, Chris



Tom Floyd
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#13 Posted: 6/29/2010 16:25:41

I used plywood ribs on mine but it made the wing pretty heavy.

 

Tom



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Seth Jackson
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#14 Posted: 7/17/2010 14:18:49

Hey guys. Sorry it has been so long since I replied..  No status on my project.. I have been so busy that I have not even started it.. I am going to Airventure this year and I hope some of you guys are to. I am hoping to look at some ultralights there. If any of you guys make it, let me know so we can meet up.



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#15 Posted: 8/16/2010 21:09:51 Modified: 8/16/2010 21:10:50
Dan,
What does it weigh ready to fly, less fuel?
Dave
Dan Leech wrote:

 

My Affordaplane is just recently finished. I own the CHEAPAIRCRAFT Yahoo groups. I expect to make the first flight in the next couple weeks, after I get a bit of refresher training.

Dan Leech

Alliance, Ohio


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Dan Leech
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#16 Posted: 3/7/2011 20:57:13

Sorry it took me so long to reply... I was unemployed for quite a while, now I am working 7 days a week...

 

My Affordaplane weighs 456 pounds empty.

 

I got the Airworthiness Certificate 10-1-10. I haven't made the first flight yet. My skills were far rustier than I thought. I should be ready in the spring of 2011. My instructor says my takeoff's and airwork are fine, I just need a bit more work on landings. I have had the plane on the runway at the anticipated takeoff speed (33-35 mph) with the tail up. It wants to fly, I just kept it on the ground.

 

Attached are a couple of the most recent photo's..

 

Dan Leech

Alliance, Ohio

Affordaplane N66NL



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Dana Hague
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#17 Posted: 3/9/2011 06:35:19

 456 lbs?  I thought the A-Plane was supposed to be (theoretically at least) 103 legal?


 



Ben Anderson
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#18 Posted: 3/10/2011 14:49:32

Hey Seth,

I'm a rookie as well, I know this is a little late for posting but I bought plans for the affordaplane as well just before I bought my ragwing parasol. It was kinda funny because I had never built an airplane before but I've been working on my ultralight since last august and should be complete by the end of this summer. One of the advantages of my aircraft is that it's being built out of wood which is easier to work with then aluminum, especially for beginners.

http://www.ragwing.net/ 

This is the company that sells their plans along with several others and most of the aircraft, including mine, can be built for under $2,000 including the engine. Good luck with what ever you built and stay safe.

Ben



John Loring
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#19 Posted: 3/18/2011 22:26:33

I bought the plans about 8 years ago, did alot of research and very few made it to the 103 number. I also priced all the materials and it was around 10K (everything new and AN hardware) . I put the plans on the shelf and have re-visited them every so often. still contemplating to build it or not.



John Loring
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#20 Posted: 3/18/2011 22:32:47

Dan,

you have a good looking A-Plane!

just curious what do you have in it dollar wise(if you dont mind)

also noticed that you changed the main gear, what did you use??

thanks

 



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