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Terry Dunn
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#1 Posted: 6/20/2011 11:14:42

Hello Everyone, new member here!

I have been very interested in flying ultralights. There are so many choices, which seems like half the fun. The problem is that where I live (Ann Arbor Michigan) there is no one or group that I can find to hang out with to learn and get instruction.

Also thinking about going to Oshkosh just to look at ultralights, but I have never been there before, so is it worth the trip?





Bryan Dever
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#2 Posted: 6/24/2011 19:52:23

Terry,

I live just outside of Ann Arbor in Dexter.  I have been flying and building ultralights for 8 years.  It is true that there is not a lot of ultralights in the area, but there are more than you might think.  

Oshkosh is a lot of fun.  I go every year.  There are not as many ultralights as there use to be, but it is always worth going.

I am currently building a Team Airbike.  You are welcome to come by and see it if you would like.  There are others in the area we could look at as well. 

Feel free to email me directly if you want to talk about it.       bndever@gmail.com

Bryan D



Joe Delene
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#3 Posted: 6/24/2011 20:24:37

  I would also recommend trying to get to OSH if your any kind of aviation buff, even one or 2 days.



Ken Finney
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#4 Posted: 6/28/2011 17:36:46

Is Oshkosh worth the trip???

 

Is breathing worth the trouble?

 

Ultralights are coming back, the UL area at Oshkosh was much improved last year (versus the last few previous years), or at least that was what was published, and that trend should continue.

 

Oshkosh isn't just a normal fly-in, it warps time and space.

 

 



Grant Smith
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#5 Posted: 6/30/2011 17:36:34 Modified: 6/30/2011 17:37:31

Check out the Belight and the CGS Hawk. Determine if you are interested in a true 103 UL or a light sport, heavy UL, type of aircraft. Also decide about buy or build. OSH is the place to get answer these questions if you do not know.

 



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Paul Swanstrom
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#6 Posted: 7/1/2011 16:55:33

Welcome Terry,

       Sport pilot regulations Killed any expansion of ultralight flying,because there is no way to get training in an ultralight airplane.  Before sport pilot there were numerous training two place ultralights which by definition were not ultralights because they were too heavy and of course were flown with two people.   Now all these fat ultralights must be registered as light sport airplanes.  Instruction can not be given by anyone for payment in anything other than a certified aircraft.   I know of three pilots in my area who used to sell  and instruct in UL but just gave up.   I am now getting training in a Cesna 150  which is a far cry from a Mitchell B-10  ultralight which is now finished and ready to fly.   I would much rather learn in a  two place Quicksilver.

     I recently read that a LODA  has been issued that some of the previous UL trainers may be allowed back into service but I don't know the details.   Could EAA find out and clarify that.   If EAA really wants to expand the pilot base they have got to get on this because they dropped the ball in 2003 when sport pilot regs were being discussed.   Before light sport there was a self regulated group of ultralight individuals training pilots and selling aircraft that no longer exists.

Paul Swanstrom



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Dick Anderson
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#7 Posted: 7/1/2011 21:37:11

Hi, Paul.

     I see you're about ready to fly a Mitchell Wing B-10. Excellent choice, but it will fly "different"! What engine do you have? I built one with a Rotax 277. Probably overpowered. Throttle changes had a huge effect on pitch attitude because of the high thrust line. The elevons produced lots of adverse yaw. It was easiest to just use them for pitch control and use the tip rudders to turn. If you could get some front seat time in a Challenger ll, you could experience both of these qualities, which are nonexistent in a Cessna. Also, Center of Gravity range is very narrow. Placement and size of the gas tank will cause handling changes as fuel is burned off. You can email me at ratrek@msn.com if you want more specifics. Good luck. Once you learn it's "differences" you'll love flying it.



Dick Anderson